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On cynicism

In the writing section: Isn't this an opinion and should be more factual?

"A few critics and commentators, also, supported the idea that Bukowski was a cynic, as a man and a writer; yet he was a pure stoic, not a cynic. As Bukowski stated himself in an interview: 'I've always been accused of being a cynic. I think cynicism is sour grapes. I think cynicism is a weakness.'"

I agree with you; I will re-write it to remove the unsupported, "yet he was a pure stoic, not a cynic". Johnskrb2 (talk)

He was Polish

Not german 184.147.70.38 (talk) 02:32, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Poetry editorial controversy

Hello Subvertd. I found another source. I think the content of this section should be integrated into the "Death and legacy" section to comply with neutral point-of-view. Furthermore, unreliably sourced content should be still removed. Issues were raised about this section before but no one discussed then. StephenMacky1 (talk) 17:27, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I put it in the writing section:

- because over half of his work was published posthumously

- the poetry books (not novels) you can purchase nowadays have pretty much all been subject to this effect, i.e. OG poetry books are out of print

So it effects the majority of currently published work.

I think there are enough sources now. There were also original manuscripts scans available on bukowski.net but that website is down now, which were useful for comparing editorialization to originals. Subvertd (talk) 18:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I recommended the "Death and legacy" section because it already contains content about posthumous publications. The writing section appears to be about his style, influences, etc. Wikipedia generally does not permit controversy sections either. I can mark the bukowski.net source as dead but the 45th source is unreliable since it is a forum. I also could not verify the term "John Martinized" in any of the sources. StephenMacky1 (talk) 18:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]