Jump to content

Talk:Thoracic outlet syndrome

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From

[edit]

From the NINDS page the article was copied from:

NINDS health-related material is provided for information purposes only and does not necessarily represent endorsement by or an official position of the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke or any other Federal agency. Advice on the treatment or care of an individual patient should be obtained through consultation with a physician who has examined that patient or is familiar with that patient's medical history.
All NINDS-prepared information is in the public domain and may be freely copied. Credit to the NINDS or the NIH is appreciated.

So this isn't a copyright violation. -- Khym Chanur 04:54, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)

Consequences

[edit]

Wikipedia’s Thoracic Outlet Syndrome information page remains tainted with very poor, unsafe and non researched information regarding several aspects of this condition. I would suggest that this article be taken offline so that more patients aren't hurt but the continuous false, non researched information, often agenda laden, information some contributors have suggested. Nothing about Neurogenic Thoracic Outlet Syndrome has been proven with national research beyond one physician opinion or theory. Patients obtain very poor information and make extremely invasive medical decisions based of this agenda laden article. This is a condition with extreme consequences if blatant unnecessary surgery if offered and performed for a condition in which NO clinician can actually pinpoint the location and cause, or recite the pathophysiology of Thoracic Outlet Syndrome in a manner consistent with proven national research and adequate objective diagnostic testing for upper extremity pain. We will continue to revise this article so that safe language is presented to your viewers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliehorse12345 (talk • contribs) 23:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have added templates to that section to highlight the apparent problems. Although we of course strive to make wikipedia as accurate as possible, please note that, as it is able to be edited by anyone, wikipedia is not designed as a source of medical advice (WP:MEDICAL), and that people would normally consult their doctor regarding something serious. However, I do accept that such information can be misused. Please feel free to edit this article, but you must use good references and citations, as if you don't, your edits will be reverted. Also consider making your point here, as it will reach a wider audience. Thank you. Jhbuk (talk) 11:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you JHBuk. While you acknowledge that Wikipedia does not give medical advice, indirect advice is given through this site by offering medical information in the first place. You further acknowledge that this information can be misused, however, there are no caveats to suggest to the viewer of the potential for professional medical bais and additional caveat suggesting potential harmful content. I do not think "unverified claims" is a sufficient enough warning to a mostly lay audience. In the case of Thoracic Outlet Syndrome (TOS), every article placed online is not of any national research whatsoever, as there hasn't been any to date, just continual one physician opinion and theory which can be very harmful. This would make these citations related to the pathophysiology and treatment of this condition also misleading and again, lay viewers may not understand the concept of "original" research. To include medical conditions into your database, Wikipedia must ensure that they do not indirectly promote content which may and has produce catastrophic results. Perhaps the most ethical and safest option would be to redirect your viewers to your WP Medical in which the current content for TOS is acceptable. Most of the time, it is NOT in this article. Furthermore, it would be quite difficult to cite any "good referenced" literature in which national research suggested appropriate diagnostic testing and treatment options because they don't exist. Thank you for placing additional templates to this article. I also want to make clear that it is quite obvious that a pattern of professional agenda continues to develop in this article by correlating the content with previous and new citations. It is quite obvious and blantant attempts to drum up business. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charliehorse12345 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you place your concerns here, you will get a much better response. Jhbuk (talk) 13:52, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have a doubt: how pregnancy can originate this syndrome?? Doc Elisa ✉ 18:50, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello all I am family doc has studied Travell Myofascial issues for a while. I noticed the this article has no reference to the myofascial component to TOS. This component is misunderstood and is very treatable with myofascial therapy.Srodrigu (talk) 00:19, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References from the Mayo Clinic

[edit]

During the course of doing some WikiGnome work repairing citations, I came across a ½ dozen references from: Mayo Clinic staff (November 6, 2010). "Thoracic outlet syndrome". mayoclinic.com. Rochester, MN, USA: Mayo Clinic. Retrieved August 11, 2012. {{cite web}}: External link in |work= (help)

I am not knowledgeable in this area, & I am hoping that someone who is can weave these additional citations into the article.

  1. Sheon RP. "Overview of the nerve entrapment syndromes". Retrieved Sept 7, 2010. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
  2. "NINDS thoracic outlet syndrome information page". National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke. Retrieved Sept 4, 2010. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
  3. "Thoracic outlet syndrome". American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons. Retrieved Sept 4, 2010. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
  4. "Thoracic outlet syndrome". National Pain Foundation. Retrieved Sept 4, 2010. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
  5. "Thoracic outlet compression syndromes". The Merck Manuals: The Merck Manual for Healthcare Professionals. Retrieved Sept 4, 2010. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
  6. "Thoracic outlet syndrome". Society for Vascular Surgery. Retrieved Sept 4, 2010. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

Peaceray (talk) 00:27, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Thoracic outlet syndrome. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 01:57, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Thoracic outlet syndrome. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

  • If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
  • If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 05:24, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Thoracic_outlet_syndrome&oldid=1263051602"